tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post7506175267609728798..comments2023-10-10T11:35:48.659-04:00Comments on Joan Tintor: Clark unveils his inner Elvis on Parliament HillJoan Tintorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12310221026999893117noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-39689391786157425432008-05-30T16:17:00.000-04:002008-05-30T16:17:00.000-04:00Simon, I have often felt exactly the same way you ...Simon, I have often felt exactly the same way you do as a conservative in Ontario.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-26811242867977183712008-05-29T16:39:00.000-04:002008-05-29T16:39:00.000-04:00Thanks for the comments, folks.FYI, I am offline u...Thanks for the comments, folks.<BR/><BR/>FYI, I am offline until 9:30 p.m. approx. and any comments in queue will be approved then.Joan Tintorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12310221026999893117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-82579992481498542722008-05-29T16:06:00.000-04:002008-05-29T16:06:00.000-04:00I would add to Simons remarks that Conservative do...I would add to Simons remarks that Conservative does not equal Harperite Reform/Alliance "Conservative". My father, another native Albertan, was a Progressive Conservative all his life and called himself a Conservative; and he would never vote for Reform/Alliance.Holly Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137842937086115228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-35937526871705839072008-05-29T15:28:00.000-04:002008-05-29T15:28:00.000-04:00Joe was, of course, most popular with the very peo...Joe was, of course, most popular with the very people who would never vote for him. He was every Liberal's favourite Tory. Liberals I knew would go on and on about what a "good and decent man" Joe was, and how awful it was that more Tories didn't support him. At this point, I asked them if they were voting for Joe. "Well, no, but..."<BR/><BR/>Let's contrast that with, err, more electorally successful politicians. In contrast to Joe, Trudeau, Mulroney, and Chretien were absolutely despised by their opponents, yet each won majority governments. Harper also is hated viscerally by Liberals, yet according to Angus Reid 58% of Canadians believe he will be re-elected. (That is a key polling number to watch, BTW - very rarely is that number wrong when it comes to determining the winner of the next election. The public can generally pick winners, even if they don't always like them.) <BR/><BR/>It has been said that politics is about knowing who your friends are, knowing who your enemies are, and treating them accordingly. It always struck me that Joe never quite figured that out, or at the very least spent a career unsuccessfully trying to prove it wrong.Dennis Prousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01117649570711228161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-49440582005036010952008-05-29T14:43:00.000-04:002008-05-29T14:43:00.000-04:00I'm an Albertan, born here and always lived here. ...I'm an Albertan, born here and always lived here. John is perfectly right; Joe is an Albertan while Harper is a robot produced in Ontario.Holly Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137842937086115228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-65890053226763879492008-05-29T14:15:00.000-04:002008-05-29T14:15:00.000-04:00ut that was the thing about Joe, wasn’t it? He had...<I>ut that was the thing about Joe, wasn’t it? He had respect for the views of everyone except the citizens of the province that elected him to Parliament in 1972, 1974, 1979, 1980, 1984, 1988 and 2000. When it came to the “others” of Alberta, Joe’s attitude seemed to alternate between disgust and embarrassment.</I><BR/><BR/><I>John -- Virtually no Albertan would agree with you. Joe Clark is an Central Canadian's version of an acceptable Albertan. (Much like he is the media's version of an accepteable conservative.)<BR/><BR/>Albertans and conservatatives know that Joe Clark is unrepresentative of the former and hostile to the latter.</I><BR/><BR/>Every time I hear people speak like this, I want to explode. I am an Albertan, born and bred and proud of it. I have voted NDP in every election I could and I have only once had a representative from my party. <BR/><BR/>Albertans do not equal Conservatives. <BR/><BR/>The electoral system tends to translate small electoral pluralities into sweeping legislative majorities giving the appearance of uniform support where there is actually great diversity. <BR/><BR/>To suggest that one can only be Albertan by subscribing to one particular ideology / party is offensive and totalitarian.<BR/><BR/>Yours,<BR/>Simon J. Kiss<BR/>Born, Spruce Grove, AlbertaSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05981296362335774054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-39400646248995160432008-05-29T12:55:00.000-04:002008-05-29T12:55:00.000-04:00Ontario-born Stephen Harper has much more in commo...Ontario-born Stephen Harper has much more in common with the average Albertan/westerner than Joe Clark ever did. Anonymous was bang-on when he said Joe was "Central Canada's version of an acceptable Albertan". Meaning wimpy and deferential. I like to refer to him as Joke Clark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-85447139707549260122008-05-29T10:05:00.000-04:002008-05-29T10:05:00.000-04:00John -- Virtually no Albertan would agree with you...John -- Virtually no Albertan would agree with you. Joe Clark is an Central Canadian's version of an acceptable Albertan. (Much like he is the media's version of an accepteable conservative.)<BR/><BR/>Albertans and conservatatives know that Joe Clark is unrepresentative of the former and hostile to the latter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-46408387487079651042008-05-29T00:06:00.000-04:002008-05-29T00:06:00.000-04:00Joe Clark.A Liberal plant. He was too clueless to ...Joe Clark.<BR/><BR/>A Liberal plant. He was too clueless to know that his role was to prevent the PC's from ever getting a majority government. For that, he was a shoo-in for a Liberal patronage appointment.<BR/><BR/>His side profile countenance reminds me of Alfred Hitchcock minus the talent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-2890646954693783652008-05-28T20:02:00.000-04:002008-05-28T20:02:00.000-04:00I have never been to Alberta in my life but I know...I have never been to Alberta in my life but I know one thing. Stephen Harper is not an Albertan. Joe Clark is an Albertan.John Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04294989776930197863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-34984967096241058122008-05-28T15:58:00.000-04:002008-05-28T15:58:00.000-04:00Is Roy really a doctor?He spells like a six-year-o...Is Roy really a doctor?<BR/><BR/>He spells like a six-year-old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-13834618641396184832008-05-28T12:55:00.000-04:002008-05-28T12:55:00.000-04:00Actually, it's a beautiful portrait and I think th...Actually, it's a beautiful portrait and I think the artist deserves credit.<BR/><BR/>Your reactions are a little overdone I'd say.<BR/><BR/>I see Dr. Roy is doing his usual partisan/negative spewing again.<BR/><BR/>You certainly are a hateful bunch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-55976456458925739472008-05-28T09:58:00.000-04:002008-05-28T09:58:00.000-04:00Like all the Trudopian era worshippers, Joe is stu...Like all the Trudopian era worshippers, Joe is stuck in a time warp, alone, like a political orphan from another time...and this to say:<BR/>"Only the village idiot never changes his mind"...<BR/><BR/>...So, Joe's portrait should of been a scene from a group of peasants in a small town looking up at their "village idiot", ALONE, about to jump off a roof top. <BR/><BR/>Joe; progressive?........NOT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13900996.post-87409546130991646702008-05-28T06:25:00.000-04:002008-05-28T06:25:00.000-04:00I also voted for this man on a few occasions. it i...I also voted for this man on a few occasions. it is very sad that he has been reduced to this. He realy ahs become the Jimmay carter of canada.Roy Eappenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04797589638971623701noreply@blogger.com