Friday, February 10, 2006

Day Five – A way out or two . . .

David Emerson’s floor-crossing and elevation to cabinet is not evidence of deep-seated hypocrisy on the part of the Harper regime. Nor is it fatal to the Conservative party. But it is a misstep that can and should be fixed, thereby minimizing its long-term effects. Here are two ideas of how to fix it.

Read the rest at Elect Emerson.


Anonymous said...

Something should be done to get him out of that seat in the house. We the people will not rest until that happens.

Gary McHale said...

PM Harper is continuing to apply pressure to MP Garth Turner for opposing the Turncoat Emerson. This pressure according to Mr. Turner has been done via other Conservative MPs as well as a direct meeting with PM Harper.

Since Mr. Turner has clearly stated his principled position on this matter, PM Harper’s continued effort to silence him will not go over well. Mr. Turner is receiving a lot of support on this issue both in his riding and by Conservatives around the country.

Considering that Mr. Turner’s position has a great deal of support does it make any sense to turn Garth into a Martyr?

The stated point of this blog is to Remove Emerson – not to harm the party or PM Harper. Any harm so far has come as a direct result of PM Harper’s actions that he should have known were directly against many Conservative MPs. Further harm will come because PM Harper has not corrected the problem and now is attempting to turn Conservative MPs into ‘Liberal backbencher Yes’ men.

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Platty said...

Gary, are you kidding me, no harm is being done by you beating this thing to death? What you are doing is feeding the opposition, why did you not put this much effort into having Belinda removed? Are you saying that it was alright for Belinda to cross the floor, that you agreed with that move at the time? Don't tell me that Belinda's situation was different, we have one issue in front of us, floor crossing. If you put this much effort into having BS removed then you have every right to carry on, so, on that note, could you please show me the protest and petition you put together at that time.

Platty said...

If you cannot find that petiton, you can go here and sign this one...

sharon said...

The National
Your Turn with the party leaders
Stephen Harper, Conservative Party
Jan. 19, 2006
Peter Mansbridge: Next question is coming from a city you're very familiar with, from Calgary.

Colleen Belisle: Hello, my name is Colleen Belisle and I have a question for Stephen Harper regarding the accountability issue. In the past 18 months, I have noticed a number of MPs crossing the floor after the election. This makes me wonder why I should, as a voter, go and vote when my MP can change parties after the election. Mr. Harper, are there any policies that you plan to enforce after the election regarding this issue? Thank you.

Stephen Harper: My short answer is no. And I understand the voters' frustration. You can imagine I feel that frustration as much as anyone. I was the victim of a number of the particular incidents that the voter is referring to, that Colleen's referring to, but the difficulty, Peter – I know that many members of Parliament have put forward various proposals that would restrict the right of MPs to cross the floor, force elections, or whatever. I haven't seen one yet that convinces me that it would create anything other than a situation where party leaders have even more power over the individual members of Parliament. And, as you know, I've said that, of course, I've said that for a long time that I think our members of Parliament need more authority, need to be able to represent their constituents' views, and they may make very bad decisions in crossing from a good party to a bad party or, more particularly, a winning party to a losing party. But that all said, I haven't seen one yet that I'm convinced creates a bigger problem than it's actually trying to fix.

Peter Mansbridge: Do you think voters are as uncomfortable as Ms. Belisle points out when these kinds of things happen? Because if they are, one assumes that they are looking for direction from their political leaders to prevent this from happening. As you pointed out, some parties, the NDP has said it would force an immediate election. Do you think something has to be done?

Stephen Harper: Let me give a concrete example of an alternative situation. The Conservative Party of Canada, the new Conservative Party was created because people left actually no less than three separate old caucuses, two old parties, and joined with a new party, and I think there is widespread consensus among not just members of the old parties, but members of the public as well that this was a good thing to create a stronger opposition, to end the fragmentation of the conservative movement in the country.

Now, you know, this kind of law could have forced us into a situation where we were having 75 byelections. So, you know, that's a problem with any of these proposals. We understand, I understand why people want them, and, believe me, there's a couple of cases that have happened where I'd love to have a law like this, but there's also a lot of downsides when you think it through. As I say, in a practical matter, I could see how party leaders could really abuse that particular provision to make it even more difficult for members who may disagree legitimately with their party to operate within the party.

Anonymous said...

Although I have signed the two on-line petitions that are up and running, I fear that there will be little effect. A more effective approach is to write directly to Minister Emerson at and Prime Minister Harper at Remember to include your name and address so that they know you are real.

I encourage all Canadians to make your views known on this matter. Political figures know and understand that for every one person who writes a letter of complaint there are hundreds who share the same sentiments.

I think we have to continue to push on this issue as it is such a shocking subversion of democratic principles.